Hello everyone.
Apparently the Frances Jones in 17 Osborne Terrace Sale isn't my great gran Frances Jones.
This is what I know about my great gran Frances Jones
My great gran Frances Jones only had one son called Alfred Evan Jones.
She was born 12th of march 1891 in Warrington. Her son ( my grandad )was born 27th September 1914. Withington.
My great gran Frances Jones never married . She lived in a few places before she passed away in 1967 and from what I've been told by my aunt my great gran Frances was living with a john jones. He passed away before my great gran moved. Apparently he was found in the bathroom.
The strange thing is. On my grandparents marriage certificate it says name of father's name for my grandad it says john jones. Which is odd because there was a john jones in my great grans family but before she was born. I think it was 1848 and she never married my grandads birth father.
But I have found out something which I'm confused about.
I have a helper I sometimes ask for help with. But she's on holiday. She sent me 2 separate emails. This one came 1st.
Frances Jones 1 = daughter of William Hopwood Jones and Ellen Tomlinson - born in Warrington in
18911891 - Frances, aged 3 months with William and Ellen in Warrington
1901 - Frances, aged 10 with William and Edith (second wife) born Warrington, living in Didsbury
1911 - Frances, aged 20 Laundress born Warrington, living in North Wales
1914 - Alfred Evan Jones born Manchester, Frances is a Laundress (from memory)
Alfred Evan Jones is in the same grave as William Hopwood Jones
Frances Jones 2 = daughter of William Jones and Frances Ingham - born Manchester
18971901 - Manchester
William Jones - 37 - born Staffordshire
Frances - 34 - born Manchester
William - 15
George - 9
Frances - 4 - born Manchester
1911 - Osborne Terrace
Frances Jones - 44 - born Manchester
William
George
Frances - 14 - born Manchester
Take your pick 🤔
This 2nd one she sent me yesterday.
Looking again at a document I sent to you some time ago, related to where they lived:
Frances:1911 = Wales
1914 = Manchester (Alfred Evan Jones birth)
1933 - 1939 = (and possibly until
1941 when Mr Crossfield died) - 59 Rusholme Road, Chorlton (Alfred Evan Jones marriage and
1939 register)
1939 - 1967 = not known
1967 = 41 Fields Court, Hyde (death certificate)
Eveline:1911 = Aberdeen (with David and Annie Shulman)
1933 = 59 Rusholme Road, Chorlton (marriage to Alfred Evan Jones)
1939 = 1 Council Houses, Newcastle under Lyme
(1939Register)
1944 = 1 Norwood Street, Chorlton (Jean's birth certificate)
1946 = 58 Park Street (Alfred Evan Jones death certificate)
1946 = Manchester (marriage to James Owens)
So now I'm completely confused. Do I keep the 1st one she sent me or not.
But I still would like to know where / have any photos of where my great gran Frances Jones was living. It all helps me with my family background or family tree.
My hubby says why does it matter now. I say it matters to me because it's part of what I'm trying to do. He's not into this family background stuff. Because he doesn't know anything about his parents side of the family. Apparently he was told everyone was his auntie and uncle. Even neighbours. I had that also as I was growing up. It was classed as respect for the olders. That's what my dad said.
Anyway I hope that any of the group can help me with this? .
I honestly do appreciate your help and it would be great if I could fill in the gap's.
Thank you again for your help and time everyone
Dorothy