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Christopher

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Strangeways Prison
« on: 18:42:12, 24/10/06 »
 Strangeways Prison  at Southall Street, Manchester was built to replace New Bailey prison in Salford which closed in 1868. Strangeways opened on 25th June 1868. Twenty eight men and one woman were hanged there between 1869 and 1899. A further seventy one people were executed at Strangeways in the 20th century - sixty eight men and three women.

Source: Capital Punishment U.K. Prison Histories. Strangeways Prison Manchester 
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #1 on: 05:58:19, 25/10/06 »
Thanks for that info. My Father was a Prison Office there from 1950 - 1960.
Although we lived in 'quarters' a few miles from the Prison most of the Officers came home for lunch (via bus and walking). Sometimes we would wait on the corner of the street for him and it seemed like masses of Prison Officers trundling up the road...looking like a load of penguins ;D!!
When he was on holiday we would be taken along to the Prison and waited while he collected his wages for that week. We would wait in a little room with an open fire/stove and I was always fascinated by the spiral staircase and longed to climb it. Never dared!!
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #2 on: 02:11:39, 28/10/06 »
Strangeways Prison at Southall Street, Manchester was built to replace New Bailey prison in Salford which closed in 1868. Strangeways opened on 25th June 1868. Twenty eight men and one woman were hanged there between 1869 and 1899. A further seventy one people were executed at Strangeways in the 20th century - sixty eight men and three women.

Thank god for that! Something I believe you’ve got slightly wrong. From what I’ve read on the subject it did REPLACE Salford’s New Bailey Prison (which stood on New Bailey Street) but it was not BUILT to REPLACE it.

It was built to replace Belle Vue prison which formerly occupied a site on land which later became Belle Vie Gardens.
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #3 on: 02:22:43, 28/10/06 »
I doubt that the person who wrote the article got it wrong peterw. I quoted the information un the article correctly. The article about Srangeways makes no mention of Belle Vue. See the thread about Belle Vue.
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #4 on: 02:29:53, 28/10/06 »
Sorry but that doesn’t make you correct, it only makes the author of the article incorrect. Why not try checking the facts for yourself? You’ll no doubt find I’m right. I might be a Sheffielder, but believe me I do know Manchester’s history better than most Mancunians. It’s my one great interest in life.
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #5 on: 05:18:15, 28/10/06 »
Sorry but that doesn’t make you correct, it only makes the author of the article incorrect. Why not try checking the facts for yourself? You’ll no doubt find I’m right. I might be a Sheffielder, but believe me I do know Manchester’s history better than most Mancunians. It’s my one great interest in life.

I quoted a source peterw. I presume you're quoting from a source too.

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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #6 on: 06:11:08, 28/10/06 »
Christopher...I think you are overlooking the fact that if one is interested in a certain subject any information that has been gleaned over the years will have come from MANY sources. Any discrepancies will have been noted and researched to check which version is accurate. Although I don't know either of you I will have to go with peter on this one. ;D
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #7 on: 07:08:24, 28/10/06 »
I'm surprised you think the source I used is not a good one Sue. I'm sure writers on this site would have researched their facts thoroughly before putting it on the internet. It's a specialist subject and must have
been read by several people who are authorities on the content matter.
Source: Capital Punishment U.K. Prison Histories. Strangeways Prison Manchester

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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #8 on: 07:36:57, 28/10/06 »
Christopher I am sure your source is a good one otherwise you would not have put yourself 'out there' by posting it here. All I am saying is that if someone is particularly interested in a subject, and have been for some time, they will have researched it over the years from many different angles and therefore their conclusions deserve serious consideration.
(Why I am 'arguing' this point is beyond me :) as I know nothing ??? :-X)
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #9 on: 12:01:10, 28/10/06 »
You too are speaking from experience gained over years Sue.

As you've just said your conclusions deserve serious consideration.

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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #10 on: 14:14:49, 28/10/06 »
Thanks for that Christopher......my experience now has brought me to the conclusion, after much deserved serious consideration of course, that you probably think you are always right so we are going to have to agree to differ. :o
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Re: Strangeways Prison
« Reply #11 on: 18:27:11, 28/10/06 »
It's such a pity not everyone agrees to differ in this world Sue. Many fight the bit out which leads to wars and deaths. It happens in homes too .. young people leave home because they can't stand hearing their parents fighting with each other.