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arthurchappell

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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #15 on: 08:07:26, 23/08/07 »
It's an abuse of power all round - the law mainly exists as an anti-terrorism measure Home Office rulings on Stop & Search - http://www.stopandsearch.com/index.html
wikipedia on Stop & search - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stop_and_search   

 
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #16 on: 09:22:18, 23/08/07 »
I bet you feel like warning all the people in sight - the men that is
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #17 on: 09:29:58, 23/08/07 »
I bet you feel like warning all the people in sight - the men that is
I expect men are more likely to be targets for the police, especially men without accompanying girlfriends / wives, etc though women  are not likely to be totally safe from such intrusions. I have posted my story to various forums,  including some civil liberties groups - No2ID had a whole thread going on stop and search but they have recently locked and closed it to further postings.
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #18 on: 10:07:17, 23/08/07 »
I suspect you can think private thoughts without being in any way guilty of whatever activity it is that might be criminal if carried out and put into physical action, example paedophilia
To passively view internet or other images of illegal activity is enough to attract attention by the authorities, if evidence, example a credit card, allows identification
Yet even then, the alleged vast numbers of people involved is stated to be such that the Courts would be congested in processing all suspects and many are simply cautioned, at worst

One step further back there may be other people lurking with thoughts of a potentially criminal nature, but only actually criminal if put into physical action, or even intellectually, via incitement to others to engage in illegal activities
It must be a fine line between thinking about acts of an illegal nature (paedophilia or any other activity) but to profile those that fit an 'image' is not the best way to round up potential criminals, or warn them of their status in the eyes of the Police
Arthur was in no way thinking such thoughts and yet he was suspected as being upto no good on account of his location, status or appearance and was approached in an  intimidating manner with suggestions being put into his mind by clumsy police activity regardless of their origins
This does rather worry me about innocent people with low IQ being tricked into confessions and statements and further undermines the good name of the Police
Also it feeds the legal teams who exploit all Police misbehaviour and wastes taxpayers money when Police evidence is shown to be incompetently gathered and poorly presented

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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #19 on: 10:15:23, 23/08/07 »
I expect men are more likely to be targets for the police, especially men without accompanying girlfriends / wives, etc though women  are not likely to be totally safe from such intrusions. I have posted my story to various forums,  including some civil liberties groups - No2ID had a whole thread going on stop and search but they have recently locked and closed it to further postings.
didn't get a message Arthur
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #20 on: 10:19:35, 23/08/07 »
I agree that someone of low IQ might have fared really badly - they did their best to see something bad in everything about me - on searching me they saew my torch  - used to find my way into a bar I worked in yesterday morning to do the dreys - as i'm first in, the bar is in total darkness until i find the light switches and alarm systems - after that i had an interview for a job and was waiting for a course i was on to start - the cops looked at the torch as if it was proof i was a burglar - what seemed plain explanations to me seemed to alienate me more and more from them - that i didn't fit some cozy stereotype  made them view me even more with suspicion - ironically, had i fitted their initial stereotype i might have found myself visiting the station - i can see why the craig bentleys and Timothy evanses of this world get into so much trouble
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #21 on: 10:20:58, 23/08/07 »
didn't get a message Arthur
sorry - will resend
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« Reply #22 on: 11:31:29, 23/08/07 »
got it - let me know if you can when you have read the thread (on the forum we don't mention ;) ;))
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« Reply #23 on: 06:23:35, 25/08/07 »
Arthur I am so sorry you had all this trouble...how awful and unsettling for you. I know the police have a difficult job but sometimes their actions beggar belief. People are afraid to complain too much personally about police actions in case they become targets. That saying about the innocent suffering is very true!! :(
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« Reply #24 on: 13:11:05, 26/08/07 »
Anyone heard from Arthur??
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #25 on: 14:58:40, 26/08/07 »
It's bank Holiday, he's probably battling away with sweaty men in a field, somewhere, beyond the rabbit-proof fence ::) ::)

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« Reply #26 on: 16:18:32, 26/08/07 »
I hope he is not letting events get him down...so unfair!! :(
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #27 on: 16:36:18, 26/08/07 »
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #28 on: 01:13:24, 28/08/07 »
was away at nantwich - just got back - hanks for your concerns - fine at present - will reply to thread points tomorrow evening xx
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Re: police stop and search activity in manchester
« Reply #29 on: 05:49:33, 28/08/07 »
Nice to hear from you....take care! :)
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