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An open letter to Morrisy
« on: 14:54:35, 01/07/18 »
Dear Morrissey,
 
Whilst, of course, we celebrate free speech no matter how odious it is to our tender ears, we also celebrate free reply.

For your fans, the dogged celebration of the live gigs has been increasingly countered by the dreaded interviews. Interviews, which were once the playground of your wit read now like barroom diatribes with little of the perceived empathy and sensitivity that you were once loved for. For someone who was once a pin-up of the post-punk liberal – the world according to Moz has become an alien one.[/font]
The past few years have seen an acceleration in this kind of rhetoric. Initially, it had your fans thinking it was some kind of arch clever game soon to be replaced by a weary resignation, which has now been replaced by a resignation from buying tickets to your shows.

Of course, people love a lot of music made by characters we would not really want to discuss serious stuff with. Plenty of great music is made by people who talk crap and some of the worst music is made by the  nicest people and some of the greatest is made by very difficult people. We have long grown out of that thing where you checklist the artist to make sure they are on the ‘same side’!
But.
Morrissey

How has it come to this?

You were once the idol to a generation, the pin-up boy to the outsiders, the fragmented community struggling through ‘greed is good’, Thatcher’s Britain who thought and felt differently. You were the pin-up boy for the post-punk lost souls who needed a new kind of person to soundtrack their confusion and celebrate their emotional depth and lost high IQ.  You were the pin-up boy fronting these sensitive, articulate boys from the north with their funny, sardonic, complex brilliant pop songs against the grinding new Thatcher-right. A new kind of singer, a new kind of band.

You once claimed to have been a fan of my music writing and we did email briefly, although who knows if these things are true. I believe in self-expression even if I don’t agree with what’s being expressed but wish we could find ‘Moz’ wherever he has gone.

Of course, we all know that pop is a con and as Noel Gallagher, of all people, succinctly put it ‘don’t put your life in the hands of a rock n roll band’. Disappointment is part of the fan process… disappointing albums, disappointing fallouts, disappointing interviews and mansion madness, disappointing struggles to find the quicksilver magic that made something that was once so brilliant, so full of magic dust so quintessential.

But it’s not impossible.

Your old mucker Johnny Marr seems to embrace the perceived Smiths spirit musically and politically and is doing it with a dignity the more you seem to move away from it. Your best pal, the wonderful Linder, is at the top of her creative powers.

Of course being a lifelong fan is about watching the trudge towards the grave and the snuffing out of eternal youth with the artist as the mirror to all our own inevitable declines, in pop culture growing older is by nature that hard part and the dogged fan still remembers that moment in their lives when everything felt so free and perfect and the soundtrack was killer but this is the first time we may have seen the ‘death by interview’. Your gigs were still great celebrations, your albums still had enough flashes of brilliance but every time you went to explain them the fans were aghast. It was once said that you invented the art of the interview filling the inkies with brilliant quotes that were part of the art of the Smiths. Now it’s the opposite. The world you want to live in is clashing with the one your loyal and beautiful fans believe in – the one you once helped to construct. It’s heartbreaking.

Morrissey, of course you were always pithy and difficult. It comes with territory. We all heard the stories. We heard much worse ones about other people. Who can survive in the choppy waters of pop culture without that acidic touch. But what your mass legion of fans projected onto you was that of hallowed saint and maverick spirit who spoke for them. Dangerous stuff.

And now you don’t. And it breaks their hearts.

Other rock stars have got away with talking the bad talk over the years but Eric Clapton’s fans are either more likely to embrace or not really care about his ugly speech onstage in Birmingham in 1976. Some of Mark Smith’s ramblings towards the end of his brilliantly creative life, like on the Channel 4 news were swerved. Morrissey, maybe you were unfortunate to have a sensitive, aware fan base who initially cheered you on but after Finsbury Park gave you a lot of leeway but have finally had enough. Speaking to Smiths and Morrissey fans over the years there was always that resigned look when interviews came up, that. ‘Oh god what’s he said now’ tone of voice.

It’s your right, of course, to speak as you feel and it’s also the army of fans right to finally give up on the ghost.

Where do you go from here? It looks difficult now. Retire to the mansion and the cats staring back at you as you rant to them about the world like some kind of latter-day Bridget Bardot? Tour the last few boltholes that ignore the dreaded interviews or get back in touch with the world you helped to create? Go the whole hog and stand for Parliament on your new ticket? Give Johnny Marr a ring?





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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #1 on: 18:22:02, 01/07/18 »
Not that I condone everything he does, but I think Dave Haslam's reaction to hold a concert as near as possible to where Morrissey is performing seems spiteful and childish, actually I'd never heard of him before this, he's made sure we all have now.
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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #2 on: 19:02:57, 01/07/18 »


Dave who?  ;D
   I'll bet the lefty pillock is basking in the glow of  his comrades slapping him on the back for a job well done.
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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #3 on: 20:50:47, 01/07/18 »
If morrisey had been rambling on about pol pot ,and Stalin saying what good eggs they were ,I bet dave has been would have been so far up morrisey’s backside he’d be tickling his tonsils. The left don’t believe in free speech full stop

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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #4 on: 07:25:10, 02/07/18 »
One from Morrissey is this


" Chinese are a sub species"







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« Reply #5 on: 14:12:18, 02/07/18 »

If morrisey had been rambling on about pol pot ,and Stalin saying what good eggs they were ,I bet dave has been would have been so far up morrisey’s backside he’d be tickling his tonsils. The left don’t believe in free speech full stop
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 It's okay, the lefties don't mind you putting up posters and wearing T-shirts featuring that South American chappie Che Guevara, a Marxist, a political ideology that has murdered far more people across the world than National Socialism did, and continues to do so today.
  If you disagree with Morrisey then don't buy his music and don't attend his concerts, it's as simple as that, but it doesn't entitle Dave whatever his name is to have a childish sulk, to him it's an opportunity to show his right on lefty credentials.

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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #6 on: 16:21:01, 03/07/18 »
bigotry masquerading as animal welfare


Another one from Morris:


Hitler was left wing . Because his party was called national socislist.
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« Reply #7 on: 19:13:40, 04/07/18 »
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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #8 on: 20:38:42, 04/07/18 »
How erudite of him ::)
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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #9 on: 00:24:28, 05/07/18 »
bigotry masquerading as animal welfare


Another one from Morris:


Hitler was left wing . Because his party was called national socislist.




Spot on. Hitler was left wing. The party he joined shortly after the end of the Great War was called the Socialist German Workers Party, and he quickly became its star performer and a very influential figure indeed. At his suggestion, the leadership of the SDAP agreed to alter their name to the National Socialist German Workers Party (NSDAP) in order to take advantage of the virulent strain of 'Germany first, second and third' nationalism that was quickly taking root throughout the land. The basic truth of the matter is that the principle difference between Hitler and every other socialist demagogue (before and since) is that the he was infinitely more radical than the rest of them have dared to be, and he was much more ambitious with regard to moving forward with his plans for an anti-democratic command economy as quickly as possible.


There are a variety of reasons why the 'little corporal' came to be regarded as a figure of the political right, but one of the most important ones concerns the desperate need during the early years of the war to get the Trade Unions and the rest of the Labour Movement onside in the fight for national survival. Contrary to popular belief, Britain was not fully united in its determination to defeat the Nazis when the war first broke out. The Left demonised Churchill and denounced him as a "warmonger" and were campaigning for peace at all costs, which of course was a mealy-mouthed expression for capitulation and surrender to the Third Reich. Even while the Battle Of Britain raged in the air above them, and while some of the finest young men this country has ever seen were laying down their lives for the greater good of the people, the treasonous lickspittles of the Left were staging public 'stop the war' demonstrations the length and breadth of the land. They were also agitating for wildcat strikes and walkouts in factories, mines, ports and everywhere else the tentacles of the Left could reach. Their effect on public moral was becoming so damaging that, by the summer of 1941, Churchill's Government were seriously tempted to introduce internment and indefinite imprisonment for the most culpable of the ringleaders. However, the situation miraculously solved itself in the June of that year, when Hitler's forces launched their attack on Stalin. The left then dropped their opposition to the war, but only in order to support 'Uncle Joe', not Britain.

You don't need to take my word for any of this, of course. Just Google 'Oxford Group' or 'Peace Pledge Union' and see what comes up. You will find it most instructive.
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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #10 on: 03:15:21, 06/07/18 »
If Hitler only stuck to his left wing liberal agenda ..  O0


instead he turned into a murderous right wing fascist Nazi and exterminated anything with a heart beat. ???


If he stuck to providing health care for all, not capital punishment, education , the right to free speech, and of course that little thing he did with people he decided were non human.blacks like Jessy Owen .who he refused to give a medal to after he beat the whites in the races.


The world cup was held in Germany ,only one team refused to salute the England team made a Nazi salute .the Russians team refused point blank to heil a Nazi .







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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #11 on: 14:32:03, 06/07/18 »
Oh yes, hold the Soviet Union up as a beacon of free speech and liberty for all to see, they starved and murdered their own people including soldiers that retreated from the merciless German artillery and machine gun fire and sent thousands to the gulag on the orders of Stalin, yes he's a person that you can respect, but I'm still laughing at the thought of Adolf Hitler having a "liberal agenda"   ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #12 on: 21:49:44, 06/07/18 »
Very true, SCL, although personally I'm still laughing at the idea of a left wing 'liberal' agenda promoting "the right to free speech". Yeah, sure thing, just so long as you agree with everything they tell you. Otherwise you risk getting beaten up or having your property destroyed.


Some free speech, eh?

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« Reply #13 on: 22:27:36, 06/07/18 »
 O0 Also very true Steve

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Re: An open letter to Morrisy
« Reply #14 on: 04:43:19, 08/07/18 »
A light that never goes out... But yours has truly dimmed
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