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RAB

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Working Man's cafe
« on: 14:03:11, 29/03/08 »
Are there any examples still standing of very early typical worker's cafes in Manchester ?
Are they dying out, being knocked down for redevelopment, or being preserved for posterity ?

what would be on the menu that you remember from your earliest experience of food typical of your district in Manchester ?  :)

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Re: Working Man's cafe
« Reply #1 on: 14:21:56, 30/03/08 »
Sam's Chop House from 1872 is believed to be one of the cities oldest restaurants - can't find much on worker's cafe's - there are lots of city centre greasy spoon cafes around, some I remember from the late 60's early 70's even, but modern kebab and burger joints are taking over from them - The Old Wellington is the oldest pub - 1552 - and does food but whether it always did I don't know - famous for being moved and rebuilt twice, after a/. the rise of the Arndale b/. the aftermath of the IRA bombing,
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Re: Working Man's cafe
« Reply #2 on: 16:45:18, 30/03/08 »
There's the Shakespeare on Fountain Street.

When I worked at the airport some of the airlines used to have their parties at Sam's Chop House.
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« Reply #3 on: 22:33:19, 30/03/08 »
ok, I suppose I was thinking more along the lines of what food is traditional to Manchester in the same way the most traditional food that London has to offer

"Eel Pie and Mash Houses" which have been around since the 18th century - the first ones opening in pre-Dickensian and Victorian London.

Perhaps the most famous London dish is the Cockney speciality, jellied eels, caught locally and further out in the Thames Estuary. Made by boiling the eels with plenty of herbs and allowing small pieces to cool and form their own jelly (or by adding a helping portion of using gelatine). The taste is similar to that of pickled herring, but the softer texture can put people off.

The other great working class tradition is pie and mash. Historically, the pies were made from scraps of beef and vegetables, leftovers or from the local markets, under a pastry crust. The mashed potatoes were liberally covered in parsley gravy or "liquor". There has been a great revival in these dishes and quite a number of Pie ‘n’ Mash restaurants can now be found across London.

I there an equivalent staple food from Manchester ?

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« Reply #4 on: 22:42:31, 30/03/08 »
Man chester pudding - like a jam rolypoly I believe

and good old hotpot
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« Reply #5 on: 22:45:58, 30/03/08 »
what about 'Black Pudding' ?

Manchester pudding is a misnomer - I think it's a tart of some type
or sponge with icing ?

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« Reply #6 on: 22:51:16, 30/03/08 »
it's like a jam tart then

black pudding, I had a friend who used to bring them to school, they tasted quite nice, but now I know the ingredient is blood - no thank you
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« Reply #7 on: 23:07:39, 30/03/08 »
...it's not human blood then !!  :P

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« Reply #8 on: 23:11:58, 30/03/08 »
try it :P

I like my own blood though
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« Reply #9 on: 23:48:33, 30/03/08 »
Bury market is famous for it's black puddings - a food i love - hard to take serious after the Goodies classic Ecky Thump episode with the martial art of beating people up with black puddings - another classic old eaterie in the city is sinclair's oyster bar - attached to the old wellington inn
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« Reply #10 on: 20:59:47, 31/03/08 »
I've never eaten blood deliberately, although it must be contained in all red meat !!

I can only say that I enjoy eating muscle tissue, never 'organs'

....I feel a 'veggie' moment coming on  :-[

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« Reply #11 on: 21:02:30, 31/03/08 »
I wish I could be a veggie or vegan, but there was a girl at school who was and she always looked anaemic
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« Reply #12 on: 23:38:35, 31/03/08 »
...they always do seem to be the ones with the poor complexions etcetera !!

I suppose a starving person would be glad of any sort of food really, but I am not and I do take exception to dishing up offal or stuff like liver with large holes, where the portal vein is still in evidence
That was our experience of liver at school, not good and yet not sufficient to make me vegetarian in any way either !!  :(

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« Reply #13 on: 19:43:24, 01/04/08 »
Bury market is famous for it's black puddings - a food i love - hard to take serious after the Goodies classic Ecky Thump episode with the martial art of beating people up with black puddings - another classic old eaterie in the city is sinclair's oyster bar - attached to the old wellington inn

Apparently oysters were a poor man's food at one time and often added to Lancashire hotpot

The Puritans banned the eating of Eccles Cakes at religious festivals, they are still associated with fairs in the district. Chorley Cakes are very similar but sometimes larger and oblong or oval in shape. Sad Cakes are another variation, being found in the Rossendale area. There children were said to refer to them as ‘Desolate Cakes’. Sometimes they are like large Eccles Cakes and sometimes the fruit is mixed into the pastry and rolled together ˝ others are folded round the filling, envelope fashion.

Manchester Pudding was published by Mrs Beeton in her book of Household management. Manchester Tart is a simpler, more modern version and was a very popular school dinner pudding of the 1950s-70s. It is still regarded with much affection by forty-somethings today. It resembles a set custard slice in a short crust pastry with a layer of jam hidden at the bottom. The recipe is not definitive and may be made with shortcrust or puff pastry, strawberry or raspberry jam and generally sprinkled with desiccated coconut.  :)




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Re: Working Man's cafe
« Reply #14 on: 20:03:47, 01/04/08 »
when's the cookery book due out RAB? ;)
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