Manchester's Great & Good

[arthurchappell]

....tell us about the origin of the frequent 'Trafford' place name, Arthur [please !!]   

Trafford was developed by two family's, the De Masseys and the De
Traffords, see wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trafford
  Fprd means river crossing point - so Salford and Trafford, etc were places where the Irwell were crossable - early monks often controlled the crossing points, guidimg, ferrying and trading with travellers

[celeste]

My son said one of the other houses was Davenport, now there was a Sir Walter Bromley-Davenport, of Capesthorne Hall, near Congleton I don't know if there were Davenport relatives in Manchester though



NB I said it was De Trafford on page 1

and the de Masseys hailed from Dunham Massey, Cheshire

[RAB]

I suppose 'Massey' went back to French catholic origins, like a lot of other important families, e.g. 'Derby' ? 

[celeste]

The Derby family name in the 15th century at least was Stanley, it was Lord Stanley who changed sides at the Battle of Bosworth Field, and this helped defeat Richard III. 

Richard III had one of his sons hostage, thinking this would keep Stanley loyal, Stanley's reply was 'I have other sons' - his name, to me, has become synonymous with treachery

[RAB]

....couldn't resist a Google - sorry !!

The Stanley family was descended from Adam de Aldithley who accompanied William the Conqueror to England. One of his descendants married an heiress whose marriage portion included Stoneley, Derbyshire - hence the name Stanley.
 

[celeste]

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