Manchester Cent. Lib. Archives - L171 All Saints, Elton, Marriage records 1871

[MARYELLEN]

Does anyone have occasion to do any research at M/C Central Library? If possible, could you look at a parish register for me?

Richard Mills and Mary Alice Clark were married at All Saints church, Elton, in the September quarter of 1871.  I am trying to find the name of Richard's father which may be shown in the marriage entry.  I understand that these records are available at the above reference number, (L171).

I would appreciate it, very much, if anyone can help.

[RAB]

.....it depends upon who witnessed the marriage
The best man and the chief bridesmaid are the ones usually recorded - the parents aren't normally involved - at least nowadays !!

The Birth Certificate would definitely have to list the parents and often their occupations if stated -  so you would need to trace that

 

[MARYELLEN]

Thanks for your reply, Rab.

I may not have expressed myself very clearly, but a couple of years ago I obtained a photocopy of a parish register(?) marriage entry of another relative, which named the fathers and their occupations of the bride and groom.  This saved me from having to buy the actual copy of a marriage certificate until I was sure that this was my relative.

I was hoping to do the same with regard to Richard Jackson and Mary Alice Clark.

cheers,  MaryEllen

[RAB]

....you're right - I'm sorry I am not really being much help
Perhaps some kind soul will look up the names you are interested in at Manchester Central Library / Local Studies

From July 1837 (when civil registration of marriages began in England), it was possible to marry in a Register Office, a non-conformist chapel or a Catholic church which had been licensed for marriages.
A new register book was used, and included much more information than previously.

    * The year
    * The place of marriage, including the parish and county
    * Register entry number
    * The date "when married"
    * Name & Surname of groom and bride
    * Age of groom and bride
    * Condition (e.g. bachelor, spinster, widow, widower)
    * Rank or profession (occupation) of both (....it was common for a bride not to be employed)
    * Residence at the time of marriage (both groom and bride)
    * Father's name & Surname (of both groom and bride)
    * Rank or profession of father (of both groom and bride)
    * whether by banns, or licence
    * Signatures of the groom and bride (or their marks)
    * Signatures of two witnesses
    * Signature of the person performing the ceremony

(Mothers' names were not stated)


Possibly it should also be possible to obtain a photocopy of the church marriage register from the County Record Office

The Elton you refer to is in Bury :-

BURY, Elton, All Saints; Diocese of Manchester
For original registers enquire at the church.  All Saints Vicarage, 10 Kirkburn View, Brandlesholme, Bury BL8 1DL

Is this the church you mean ?

p.s.
You now state Richard Jackson as well as Richard Mills

 

[MARYELLEN]

Thank you, once again, Rab

Yes, the church is ALL SAINTS, ELTON.

I meant to write Richard MILLS, and not Richard Jackson!  Their may be a connection and I wasn't concentrating properly!

MARYELLEN

[FLETCHER]

MARYELLEN

I am researching my own family history, including registers at All Saints, Elton. I was in the Central Library earlier this week, & got the following:

Marriage, 1 August 1871, Mary Alice Clark, 19, to Richard Mills, 24, Stripper & Grinder, of Elton. His father was James Jackson, a mechanic. Her father was Abraham Clark, a cotton spinner.

Hope this is useful.

Mark

[MARYELLEN]

Thank you very, very much, Mark.  That was just the information that I wanted.  I didn't believe (previously!) that James Jackson was Richard's father, but it seems that he was!

Thanks once again

Elsie (Mary Ellen)