MADONNA'S ADOPTION

[celeste]

Do you think she should have adopted the child, my opinion is that the child would have languished in an orphanage for God knows how long, if I was that child I would be happy to be brought up by Madonna, if there is a problem it is that the government are not helping the poor

[peterw]

Trouble with that is you have no idea what is likely to go through that child’s mind during its growth. Neither have I, but I would think that sometime in its life the child with realise that it is not in its native land, and might then to want to go back to it — if only to find its on parents and find out what kind of a life it could have had, had it been allowed to stay. There’s a lot more to it than that, but you get the general idea.

As you say, the child is very lucky — but will it always feel that way? No one knows.

[celeste]

odd thing is, Angeline Jolie hasnt been attacked and she is nearly on her third adoption

[peterw]

There was someone on the news tonight (ITV) who had a similar experience but is now aged 34 and doesn’t really know where he rightly belongs in our society. Frankly, I think Madonna’s only done it for the publicity, but I’ll wait and see.

[celeste]

now if you had had to be adopted, who would you have wanted to adopt you (someone famous,male or female)

[peterw]

Funnily enough, none. I’ve talked about it before on SF’s ex-pats. My father was the worst anyone could ever have — and one or two foumers admitted that their own fathers matched him. But who knows what famous people get up to behind closed doors? Could be out of the frying-pan into the fire.

[celeste]

when the boy is 16 he will be able to visit hi father and help out financially

[peterw]

Good from his father’s viewpoint — if he’s still living. But it doesn’t help the boy’s mind, which could for ever be in turmoil.

[celeste]

have heard she wants to adopt a girl now,  i think i would rather take my chances with Madonna, than take my chances in an orphanage.  Madonna is quite different to the person she appears to be  in videos etc.  she classes  these as "performances", after all when an actor/actress  appears on stage, films, TV we dont expect them to be like the characters they portray (of course there are some people who do)

[village_idiot]

My views on this subject are this
If a person who ever it may be can give a caring loving home to any child then let them do it
This world is full of people that are only to willing to criticise and not to help
If the child grows up to be a balanced and well educated human being then the foster parents will have completed their role as parental guidance
If the child grows up and  is told that they are adopted and the child wants to go back to the place they came from that would only be natural
At the end of the day that child has been given the opportunity to live a life that it would not have been able to live
No one  absolutely no one  has the right to say it is not fair or it is not acceptable
The human race needs to wake up to its self pretty darn quick we all are human beings
Take ya religous fanatics and ya political jerks away from this world and people will then start to have some respect for each other
Enough said i dont want to go on about the religious or political jerks as i wont be able to stop
Good luck to the child that Maddona has adopted and good health to those that are still in need of adoption Village _idiot

[peterw]

The only trouble with your reply is the two ‘ifs’. They’re a bit ‘iffy’. If — is a supposition. Doesn’t always work the way you’d like it to work.

[celeste]

you have to take your chances in this life, that child has better odds living with Madonna than staying in Malawi

[TELENY]

One lucky child . . . but what about the countless others in Malawi?  How is Madonna helping the poverty situation?  Is she not part of the Capitalist system that is based on the notion of a first, second and third worlds?

Sad to say this, this is a fad for western celebrities - Brad Pitt and Angelina Jolie have got an African baby, so, Madonna has to have one.  My god, human beings are now consumer items - its like buying a Chanel handbag!!

May do a lot for Madonnas' street-cred and will ease the consciences of a lot of people in affluents parts of the world, but, these celebrities would be on the correct moral path if they threw their corporate weight behind poverty alleviation strategies and challenged global corporations and World Bank donor states to remove economic apartheid from the world economy.

[celeste]

Madonna cannot be expected to take responsibility for the shortfalls of the Malawi government,  nothing was changing the orphanage was getting more babies, she has made a contribution, perhaps more celebrities will follow and perhaps more non-celebrities will,  there has to be something in the offing for these children,  and  like it or not people like Madonna and Angelina Jolie (i am team Aniston though), do offer more than a glimmer of hope

[TELENY]

How do you choose one child and leave the other ten?  What is the criteria . . . does the child have to be the prettiest? male? female? with an endearing disability that could help with publicity?

Am I being TOO CYNICAL?  REALISTIC 

I would feel happier if we emptied all the orphanages in Malawi and gave every child the same leg-up and the same start in life.

By the time these kids become teenagers I bet a lot of us will start moaning on about how there are too many immigrants in the country!