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daxmor

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public loos
« on: 01:07:21, 04/03/10 »
I have just walked through the centre of Manchester, My intention was to get to piccadilly and get a £1.20 bus ride home, however I needed the loo, Our great leaders of the Manchester Kremlin (aka the town hall.) decided many years ago that all public toilets were to be closed. I saw somebody going behind a row of shops to relieve themselves, only to be told by a member of the ss (aka community support officer or plastic policemen) that they would be arrested if they continued, The guy who they were talking to was totally out of public view, compare that to the supposed toilets at piccadilly gardens at the weekend where you are on full view to everyone. (these toilets are supposed to be unisex, seriously!)
What are we supposed to do??????
Manchester has for years told the world that we are a 24 hour city. Come on leaders of Manchester council, lose some of the useless jobs in the town hall and use the money to pay for services for people who come here for a night out.
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Re: public loos
« Reply #1 on: 01:10:47, 04/03/10 »
Forgot to say that my £1.20 busfare actually cost me £5.50 in a taxi cos i needed to get home. Spend a penny, i wish it was that cheap.
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« Reply #2 on: 08:52:49, 04/03/10 »
Debenhams on Market Street have a loo and there is one in the Arndale - side of Greggs which is one I always use, also Cafe Metro on High Street has one.
 
McDonalds on Market Street had one - not sure if they've closed down, I think Burger King on Mosley Street has one upstairs.
 
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« Reply #3 on: 01:02:56, 08/03/10 »
very few public loos open during the day let alone at night - some just behind the town hall opposite friends meeting house, but they close at tea-time - surprised to find some old decent public urinals in Withington a few days ago, open and in use during the day - mostly, it's best to just walk discreetly into a pub or Macdonalds - staff won't appreciate non-customers using the loos if they see you but it's safer than risking arrest - the unisex loos are a joke, and clearly male only
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Re: public loos
« Reply #4 on: 07:13:13, 17/03/10 »
There used to be some very good public toilets at piccadilly gardens (you went down steps below street level) and the same in Albert square,

I seem to remember they had an attendant that you could tip.  So much for the 'costs too much' argument.  The council can always afford unnecessary jobs with bulls**t job titles, whopping big salaries and expense accounts but when it comes to basic services - they don't care.
Cut-backs are all very well....so long as you have something more worthwhile to spend the saving on, otherwise what's the point of the cutback?

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« Reply #5 on: 01:28:12, 18/03/10 »
many years ago,my next door neighbour and myself used to go to the bier kellar at piccadilly. one night, we left to get a taxi, she needed the loo so went to the underground ones you mentioned at piccadilly, I also needed the loo, so when she came out i went to the gents, when i came out, a guy had approached her and said he would give her a cheap taxi home, 3 quid (it was about 6 quid to where we were going in them days,) when he saw me. he wasnt happy, he took us nearly home, we got him to drop us  early cos he was weird, next day they found a body at M.R.I. we seriously never put 2 and 2 together, we just assumed he was a bit of a wierdo, turned out the "taxi driver" was the yorkshire ripper
when his face was in the papers, that was when we realised, you don't think that it will happen to you, but it just might....
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Re: public loos
« Reply #6 on: 08:11:52, 18/03/10 »
Wasn't one of the women he killed from the Manchester area, I think her name ws Joan - check back
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« Reply #7 on: 07:38:37, 21/03/10 »
Wasn't one of the women he killed from the Manchester area, I think her name ws Joan - check back
  Seem to remember two of his victims being from Manchester - could be wrong though. I once met the landlord of Sutcliffe's favourite Bradford pub -(long after the Ripper was caught). Sutcliffe would often walk the barmaids home with the excuse that they might need an escort with the Ripper being about after dark - must have really freaked them out once they knew it was him all along.
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« Reply #8 on: 08:46:35, 21/03/10 »
He only killed prostitutes though didn't he?
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« Reply #9 on: 09:55:57, 21/03/10 »
He only killed prostitutes though didn't he?
no, - and even if he did it would be bad - once the police were closing in and prostitution communities were tightening ranks and reporting suspects he started praying on women who were just alone, or who looked over-promiscuous to his way of thinking
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« Reply #10 on: 10:08:18, 21/03/10 »
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Sutcliffe#Victims lists all his victims, including non-prostitutes -
The two Manchester victims
Jean Jordan  Allotments near Southern Cemetery 1stOctober 1977 aged 20
Vera Millward _Manchester Royal Infirmary 16thMay 78 aged 40
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« Reply #11 on: 11:02:40, 21/03/10 »
Thanks for the info Arthur - Sutcliffe recently applied for parole and was turned down, the right decision IMO, what's your opinion?
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« Reply #12 on: 11:42:03, 21/03/10 »
Thanks for the info Arthur - Sutcliffe recently applied for parole and was turned down, the right decision IMO, what's your opinion?
certainly the right move - what sort of life would he expect if freed anyway? He'd be hunted down by vigilantes at every turn
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« Reply #13 on: 11:50:23, 21/03/10 »
I agree, he'd already been attacked twice in prison - which is wrong as his incarceration is his sentence - but if was genuinely remorseful then wouldn't he feel guilt which perhaps would be harder to bear than him feeling justified in doing what he did
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« Reply #14 on: 11:55:44, 21/03/10 »
I agree, he'd already been attacked twice in prison - which is wrong as his incarceration is his sentence - but if was genuinely remorseful then wouldn't he feel guilt which perhaps would be harder to bear than him feeling justified in doing what he did
From his point of view his best hope for a change would be to press on with claims to insanity and hope for a move to a treatment centre - unlikely he'd ever be freed and the public outcry if he was would be phenomenal - most likely he'll die behind bars
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