Yuppies/posh people in Manchester

[sheilanz]

Its no good trying to be nice to that kind of person
 
They tend to think you are after something..
 
Now I know at least three people that could buy out three
times some of the toffee nosed ones yet they are lovely to talk to, no back stabbing only a gentle manner that belies
how much they are worth... People to trust with your life..

[celeste]

Well it has been said that the ones who have the money don't boast about it hence 'old money' and the others the 'nouveau riche' are the ones who do
 
life's too short really to bother about such things

[Adsum]

During the last few years of my working life I met many rich and powerful people, from Royalty to film stars, to whoever. I usually found that the richer or more famous or successful a person was, the nicer they were. The ones to watch out for were nearly always the up and coming wannabee's who were full of their own importance, and who mistakenly believed that rudeness got results.

[sheilanz]

Reminds meof the the extremely rude ones who think they are something special when in a restuarant.
Clicking their fingers to attract the waiters attention
 
Or shouting "Waiter"

[celeste]

During the last few years of my working life I met many rich and powerful people, from Royalty to film stars, to whoever. I usually found that the richer or more famous or successful a person was, the nicer they were. The ones to watch out for were nearly always the up and coming wannabee's who were full of their own importance, and who mistakenly believed that rudeness got results.

There was a piece of advice used by celebrities, 'be nice to people on the way up as they may be the people you meet on the way down'

[Cupcake]

There are always exceptions, but I've always found people at either end of the scale to be lovely.  I know people who haven't got anything much, but they'll share it and welcome anyone.  I know multi-millionaires who haven't got the slightest attitude over it.  It's ALWAYS the ones in the middle, who've got a bit and think it matters....
 
Same with celebs - the brand new ones come in looking to do a really good job, the established ones know what they owe Joe Public and in the middle are the ones that have had a bit of limelight and think they are the centre of the Universe. 
 
Must just be human nature.  Maybe I should be glad I was born with nowt? 

[Mini]

Lol, just to expand on the old saying, I read a great interpretation of it on a forum that was frequented by mostly Americans. The version read

           'be careful whose toes you tread on on the way up, they just might be kicking your ass on your way back down'

it amused me no end I can tell you!


Its good to see that I'm not really alone in my feelings regarding whats happening in Manchester, and its reminded me of a very important fact that was getting a bit buried.


 Its not what or where you come from, its who you are that matters. I too have known some very well off folk who are the epitome of warmth and kindness, and some not so well off who were absolutely nauseating in their attitude to what they considered to be 'lower class' people, when in fact they weren't that far away in the financial stakes if you really got down to the nuts and bolts of it. Then as Cupcake says, people at the furthest end of the scale with so little, and yet they have so much to give in warmth and friendliness.


I have changed tactics to our morning routine, so I don't really see many on the way to school. Gives me and little one more chance to chit chat before she is gone for the day! The afternoon, I am cutting as fine as I can to collect her so I don't tend to be hanging around waiting with these people who do come off as a bit snooty. So far, all good. I'm finding I'm much less saddened by it, and I feel a lot better for it I have to say.


Human nature can be a curious and funny thing.

[Cupcake]

   Like that one!
I always figure people are just people and most of the unpleasant things they say or do stem from their own insecurity, envy or unhappiness.  If your life is happy and your friends are many, then you've no need to hit out at other people, have you?

[Mini]

Lol, Cupcake there were many more where that one came from! I found the difference in language and its use so amusing, and the US people were similarly amused and interested by British sayings and phrasing. Great fun exchanging time with them, very entertaining and heartwarming!


I learned a whole other meaning to the word 'junk' too, lol!


I think the thing that was most bothering me, is in fact that we are just all people at the end of the day, so why the haughty behavior? Maybe its because its an alien thing for me to be like that, so I just don't get it? Not sure?
Why or for whatever reason the people are like that, its not really on my agenda to be a one woman crusade to illustrate how much better it is to be friendly, I have so much else I need to be getting on with than getting entrenched in other peoples attitudes or lack of manners.


As my grandad used to say 'life is a funny old game, and the best seat in the house when things get odd is the sidelines, you can learn so much by just watching' in my tender years of under 10, I didn't get it, he just winked and said 'one day you will', I think this must be one of those times..... still miss that wise old man.

[Cupcake]

I think I said before (but I'm too lazy to read back and check!) that you see cliques and pecking orders in most social animals.  There's an instinct to "belong" - very sensible when belonging to the pack/herd/tribe is your best chance of survival.  With that comes the instinct to attack "different" - also sensible when "different" may harm or risk your pack/herd/tribe in some way.
 
When you see a clique of humans sticking together and excluding everyone else, you've got the basic instinctive situation.  They feel vulnerable alone, not confident, so they band together and feel better, then they protect the group from outsiders and secure their position within it by sticking strictly to the rules.  Usually there's a little pecking order in there too, so certain group members are leaders and others are followers.  Whether that's street gangs with guns and knives, or the ladies at the school gate, the principle is the same.
 
Not my cup of tea, but then I am blessed with a happy life, a nice family and lovely friends.  Maybe if I wasn't so lucky, I'd find myself motivated to join a little gang.....
 

[Mini]

Very true, you see that 'herding and flocking' behavior all over really. I have never been afraid to be a 'bit out there' and be by myself, so although I have enjoyed being part of a group or set of friends, I have never really needed it as any kind of crutch.
Takes all sorts though doesn't it, and there is nothing wrong with either wanting to or not to belong to any sort of group. Whatever makes you happy is the main thing, and as long as its detrimental to no-one else, its all good.


Strange how in this day and age of sophisticated communication some are still unsure and feel the need to band together for some kind of comfort and feeling of protection. Actually quite sad if you follow the train of thought a little.


Anyway, getting a little too philosophical when I am faced with cleaning out a smelly guinea pig hutch....I'd rather have my mind a comfy blank when doing that smelly task, although the pigs themselves are very cute!

[Cupcake]

We all have the impulse at birth.  What happens after that shapes the outcome.  I've always been "delightfully different" (not to say [censored]!) so "fitting in" never truly happened, not even at home and I suppose what you've never had, you don't miss.  I get along with almost everyone -  probably BECAUSE I don't have any angst about it, now I think about things - but I don't think I have ever felt the slightest urge to exclude someone.  Seems a strange thing to do - they might be lovely and I'd miss out on the fun. 
One of my favourite quotes  translates as "you only see clearly with your heart" and I think that says it all.      

[Mini]

 I have excluded people in the past, only when its become clear they are a toxic character. Some people it seems, with the best will in the world, for whatever reason, seem hell bent on being as unpleasant as possible.


I like to think I can get along with anyone, people who know me may say something totally different  , in the main though I like to keep an open mind, you never know who or how someone may enrich your life.


You only see clearly with your heart...I really like that quote 

[Cupcake]

From "The Little Prince" - he says the most important things are invisible to the eyes; you can only see clearly with your heart.  Stuck with me since we read it for A level French. 
I know what you mean about toxic - now I think of it, our French teacher was.... .  Most people respond to a bit of extra kindness and a chocolate muffin, but occasionally, someone is just hellbent on being vile and anything you say or do is just flung back at you.  Always upsets me, but you can't save every lemming! 

[sheilanz]

 
 
   Do unto others as you would be done by.
 
 
   In other words treat people the way you like to be treated
with courtesy, kindness and lots and lots of love
 
  Luv from   the Old Gal