Moors Murders

[Jim44]

Just read that Winnie Johnson has died.
Winnie was the mother of Keith Bennett who was murdered by Brady and Hindley in the '60s
Keith's body has never been found. Lets hope Winnie is now reunited with him.

R.I.P. Winnie Johnson

[Cupcake]

One day after they start looking into whether he was finally going to tell her.  Seems he left a letter for her, to be opened after his death, and gave it to his mental health advocate.  Her ex-husband now says he has known about that letter for a decade.  What a disgusting pair - I hope at least one of them gets jailed.  The beeb site says Winnie wasn't told about the letter before she died - obviously she was too ill. 
 
I think Ian Brady expected his advocate to blab about the letter, and I think he wanted to use it as a bargaining chip to get to end his life.  He has said for decades that all he wants is to die.  He's been tube-fed against his will for years.  I reckon Keith Bennett was his very last bargaining chip.  Well, Winnie knows now exactly where her lad is, and she gets a bit of peace.  I sincerely hope Ian Brady lives a good long time yet.   

[sheilanz]

 
 
Am I tight inn thinking there are still two bodies missing
from those found, seem to recall reading something a while back

[Jim44]

No Sheila, There is only one, (known) body missing, That of Keith Bennett aged 12. He was the son of Winnie johnson who died last friday.

Of course there are other murder victims who's bodies are still missing, unrelated to the Moors Murders.

[Beauregaurd]

That nasty killer should be forcibly kept alive until he reveals all and the whole nasty business can be laid to rest. When he tells all then he can depart this world I hope to eternall damnation.
I will not utter her or his nasty names.
I am of similar age to the child (J.K.) that was taken from Ashton market and I played in Ashton market at that time. It was a frightening time for all us children and whenever the business is mentioned I get a cold shiver down my spine.
My sympathy to all the bereaved families of the murdered victims.
 

[Cupcake]

My Great-grandmother said of that pair that Hindley was worse, because "at least Ian Brady had the grace to be mad".  My family all lived round there, and they saw Myra Hindley going to one of the mothers to ask if there was any news of her daughter.  That's evil in its purest form, if you ask me. 
 
Sheila,  I think you're remembering that they only admitted, and were charged for, three of the five murders at the time.  They only confessed to killing Keith Bennett and Pauline Reade in 1985.  When Hindley was desperately trying to get out..... They weren't prosecuted for those crimes - it wasn't considered to be in the public interest.  I reckon the powers that be decided to hang on to two more opportunities to lock her up if she ever did slither out.   They found Pauline, but not Keith. 

[cheethamgirl]

A classmate of mine lived a couple of doors away from the Bennett family and she knew Keith. She was very shocked at his murder. I seem to recall that every summer, the press reported tragedies involving children either being abducted and killed or simply being killed in tragic accidents (playing in dangerous places).  One summer, it was a boy from my own infants school. Kids then were unsupervised all summer long, often because both parents worked. Can't decide if child abduction is less common nowadays, or whether it is more common and therefore less widely reported.

[sheilanz]

Yes CC and Jim I think you are both right, my memory does tend to play tricks more of late, tho I must say I remember 20 years ago better sometimes than last week.
Dont think there is any hope now about Keith being found
such a pity for his family..........

[Cupcake]

Unless it really is in the letter.....  I find it hard to believe that a person could forget the precise location where he killed a child and buried his body.   On the other hand, I find it hard to believe that anyone would withhold the information from the child's mother for decades, even when she was dying of cancer.   

[JillR]

That poor lady was frozen in time and was never able to move on with her life after her son died. I lived in the area and remember the Moors murders well. I also worked at Gorton Library, where they had Brady's membership form from the time when they lived in Gorton. Anyone who lived nearby had some connection to the victims, perpetrators or locations, I think. Far worse things have happened since, but something about these crimes has kept them in the forefront of people's minds.

[Fools Gold]

Keith's brother Alan runs this website.  They are currently petitioning for Government intervention in trying to locate Keith's body.

searchingforkeith dot com

[Corrupt council]

Manchester festering wound that will never heal.


It really does not matter where Keith's body is.
The people of manchester will never forget what happened by the evil that preyed upon our children.

[Cupcake]

I think Winnie's distress over Keith being lost and the refusal by Brady and Hindley to even give her that much ease is a huge part of the continuing ill-will towards the pair of them.   She was tortured to the day she died.  That's a special kind of evil, that is. 

[Fools Gold]

Manchester festering wound that will never heal.


It really does not matter where Keith's body is.
The people of manchester will never forget what happened by the evil that preyed upon our children.

I strongly disagree.  It does matter to Keith's remaining family where his body is.   No one can dismiss the very people who were most affected by Brady and Hindley.   We, the Manchester residents, are just witnesses to the aftermath, Keith's family are still the victims and always will be.

[Manchester Man]

Saddleworth Moor is a stark and forbidding place.

I have no doubt in my mind that both Brady and Hindley knew where Keith was buried. Certainly to an area if not the exact location.
The pair used inference of that knowledge to gain advantages for themselves. Brady can still help Keith's family by revealing where he is buried.

It's about the only decent thing left that he could do. I suspect he won't.

Does it matter to Keith's family, absolutely.

ATB
Ray.