Author Topic: Manchester council meetings with china officials corrupt,illegal and immoral  (Read 3306 times)

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A bizarre state of affairs exists between the council of manchester and the undemocratic country of china who policy on human rights is far from pretty.
Not only are the councils officials having meetings with a country that human rights records are appealing , but they are having meetings and tipping off the chinas officials about Dali lama tour of the u.k.


Just who does this council work for the people of manchester or the Chinese government ?


In the meeting it was stated as recorded by the notes is that the Dali lama is evil and no officials from manchester council should meet him.
 Just how have we got a foreign country telling manchester council it's policy on any affair?


So the question arises if manchester city council is a poodle for chinas foreign office just what else are they doing for other entities in the world.


I believe the council has no transparency and should be reviewed about how they are running manchester.


The labour council has been in power to long and has become corrupt for all to see, the time for any change is due I urge the people of manchester to really think about how the city is really doing under these corrupt officials.
It's immoral for the elected council to put chinas interest before the people of manchester not to mention illegal.


I won't say who you should for vote [size=78%] in any election but I will say vote for the people who represent your views and not the people who represent un democratic inhuman policy's on human rights.[/size]



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Cupcake

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 All tour dates and details are available online to the whole world. China needs no tip off from anyone.   China opposes the Dalai Lama's political stance over Tibet and routinely pressures every Council to ban his tour dates.  It will have been a Chinese representative who said no officials should greet him, and the fact it's recorded in the minutes doesn't mean MCC will comply and definitely doesn't point to any secrecy, does it?  If MCC were China's "poodles", they'd have cancelled his three tour dates here - but they haven't interfered in any way.
 
Dunno what MCC has done to you personally, but you certainly seem to hate them.....  ???   
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Corrupt council

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I am sure all tour dates were available , however why does MC need to alert chinas hench man about this?
Why did MC need to have an urgent meeting with the undemocratic people republic over a elderly gentleman visiting the city?
Why did MC state in the minutes of the meeting describe the dalia lama as "evil"


It was so bizarre Chanel 4 dispatches investigated the council and have shone a light on utterly bizarre relationship manchester council has.


I am sure if we had the same relationship with country's such as Iran who by the way are democratic there would be uproar from all over the world.


When conservative ministers says its a corrupt state of affairs then there has to be questions raised.
 
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Who said "evil"?  Give us the name of the person from MCC who said it.  All this blether and hinting is boring. 
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You will have to watch the documentary , you can catch it on 4od dispatches
Or better yet get your self a copy of the meetings minuets.


Or you can do what I have done request a copy.




The freedom of information act will be able to get you a copy as I found out there seems to be some real issues with releasing the minuets of this meeting.


Or ask c4 who said what after all they have a documentary upon the matter.


What is more surprising is if they think the Dali lama is evil what do they think of the pensioners who live in Manchester?


As Barack Obama said and said and said...TIME FOR CHANGE....long overdue

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No name then?  Thought not.  Tour going ahead in Manchester?  Thought so.  Not much happening to shout about then really, is there?  All this dark corruption and dirty deed-doing boils down to a chat over tea and biscuits.....   ::) 
 
 
 
 
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Here's the link for the readers who want to know the truth about our great council of manchester and the oppressors of Tibet


http://www.channel4.com/programmes/dispatches/episode-guide/series-118/episode-3


As China continues to flex its financial muscle by buying into British airports, water and breakfast cereals, Dispatches investigates growing Chinese power in the UK.


The programme tells the behind-the-scenes story of the Dalai Lama's visit to Britain, and reveals details of how British council,politicians from manchester to the Highlands of Scotland to the heart of Westminster are influenced by the Chinese government.
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OK.  I watched that.  Manchester was a minor segment.  During which MCC stated they had never been invited to meet the Dalai Lama.  The only mention of bullying came from the reporter, clearly trying to make something out of nothing.   What a non-event.  Still no name.
 
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Yeah see what you saying this council is with out a doubt brilliant , what was I thinking....


It's a good job there are people like you in this world who can help me put my head in the sand.


Everything's hunky dory again now I have decided the best action is to ignore documentaries about the council and how they sell out the people of manchester.
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They were not invited to meet the Dalai Lama.  They met with Chinese representatives and said they weren't going to meet with the Dalai Lama.  What, pray tell has been sold?  What is illegal or immoral about having a meeting?  What can ever be dishonest about telling the truth?  MCC has not bowed to Chinese pressure and called off a greeting or cancelled tour dates.  I've asked sensible questions, I've watched your documentary and aside from your opinion, I can't see what you're bringing to the debate. 
 
Have you even considered that given the large population of Chinatown, there may well be a significant number of people who work, pay taxes and vote in Manchester, but who wouldn't like a political activist welcomed like a hero?  I'd have been most unhappy to see Sinn  Fein leaders given a parade....
 
But you can clarify something for me.  You specifically quote someone from MCC as saying the Lama is "evil" - and you keep putting in quote marks.  But your post about getting hold of the minutes seems to suggest that  you've not been allowed to see them.  You can't name the person either.  If you've not seen the minutes, then you weren't at the meeting and you aren't on the circulation list either, so how do you know what was said and by whom?   ???
 
 
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lol , your self worth is amazing and for you to think everyone has to justify to you is very much your over self importance in full effect.


your level of evidence required is also utterly baffling you want the name of the person who called the  dalia lama evil but you make no mention of the fact that the meeting was held in the first place.


it was corrupt the whole role of events that news documentary was commissioned into why Manchester council was even talking to the people repugnant (sorry republic) of china.
 


 i am sure if china ever needs a lord haha you would be it.
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You don't have to justify anything to me.  You can be as silly as you like and it's of no real interest to me.  But when you enter a FORUM and open a DISCUSSION thread and make ACCUSATIONS of criminal activity against people wholesale, then I think it's reasonable to expect to be asked to present your evidence.  Don't you?  If nobody else is allowed an opinion or to ask questions or offer another point of view without being abused for it, then what you are posting is effectively a personal BLOG and it belongs elsewhere, not piggy-backed onto a Forum site under false pretences. 
 
I am done talking to you.  This whole thread is vicious libel.   You'll be lucky if MCC don't ask Chris for your name and address. 
 
 
 
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They can libel me after they libel c4

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I'd like to see these minuets...and waltzes and tangos.  Good exchange - lots of passion!