Deacon in court on sex abuse charges at St.Ambrose School in Hale Barns

[celeste]

Deacon and teacher appears on pupil sex abuse charges Mr Morris was a teacher at the Altrincham school  A deacon has appeared in court over 41 counts of indecent assault following a historical sexual abuse investigation at a Greater Manchester school.
Reverend Alan Morris, 63, from Hale, who taught at St Ambrose RC College in Hale Barns, Altrincham, is accused of offences between 1972 and 1991.
He did not enter a plea at Manchester Magistrates Court and will appear at the city's Crown Court on 15 August.
The Diocese of Shrewsbury said he had been "withdrawn from active ministry".
The allegations involve 29 former pupils of the boys-only school, who were aged between 11 and 17 at the time.
Mr Morris, of Rivington Road also faces charges of one count of outraging public decency and five of inciting gross indecency.
He was working as a deacon at Holy Angels Church in Hale Barns at the time of his arrest but had been "withdrawn from active ministry", a spokesman for the Diocese of Shrewsbury said.
He said that while the alleged offences were "unrelated to his ministry as a deacon", he had been taken off active duty "in accordance with statutory safeguarding procedures".
At the time of the alleged offences, the Altrincham school was run by Roman Catholic religious order the Christian Brothers.

[Cupcake]

Well, it fits the "classic" profile - middle aged man, responsible job, position of trust, access to kids..... back when nobody was aware or talked about it.    Depressing, isn't it?   

[celeste]

Worked with a girl at the airport whose brother was at that school, if I see her again I'll ask her if she knew of any 'goings on'

[Corrupt council]

It surprises me the amount of Catholics that have been in the news for sex abuse. it seems to go hand in hand pedophilia and Catholicism.


I honestly would not advice any one to send any kids to a catholic school.


or have i not noticed any other religious schools have this problem on a large a scale as the left footers?


never hear of it from Muslim ,Jewish or Hindu schools.

[Adsum]

It surprises me the amount of Catholics that have been in the news for sex abuse. it seems to go hand in hand pedophilia and Catholicism.


I honestly would not advice any one to send any kids to a catholic school.


or have i not noticed any other religious schools have this problem on a large a scale as the left footers?


never hear of it from Muslim ,Jewish or Hindu schools.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
There is more than enough evidence out there of sexual assaults and brutality in schools involving both Muslim and C of E teachers and priests. This isn't a problem confined to Catholics. All Religious and Educational establishments seem to attract their share of sexual deviants and sadists.
Muslim schools on particular seem to go in for beating an education into their pupils, both boys and girls. Pretty much as it used to happen in Catholic and C of E schools years ago.
 

 
As a Catholic I find your remarks offensive. would you have made the same comment if it had been a Muslim teacher who had been accused of sexual assault? 
 
 

[Cupcake]

Child abuse is not a religious issue at all, and to brand Catholics like that is unacceptable.  Paedophiles identify places where an organisational structure offers opportunities they can exploit.  Being a clergyman is one such opportunity - but so is being a scoutmaster, teacher, lifeguard, tutor, sports coach, bus driver, social worker, nurse, doctor, dentist or telly presenter........ anywhere that provides access to potential victims without supervision in an atmosphere of trust.   And as always, the majority are perfectly decent people who wouldn't dream of abusing anyone in any way.
 
 
 
 

[celeste]

Obviously child abuse is rife in other areas, it's just that a lot of people are not surprised any more that it is happening in Catholic schools as well as in the churches

[Adsum]

 

Obviously child abuse is rife in other areas, it's just that a lot of people are not surprised any more that it is happening in Catholic schools as well as in the churches

 
Celeste I think you are treading on thin ice when you highlight one particular religion. I am not going to be drawn further into this discussion. However there is more than enough evidence of sexual abuse in other areas.
 
For instance, given the  recent well publicised convictions of numerous Muslims convicted of grooming white girls for sex. I would find it equally offensive if people started to say that most Muslims are perverts and sexual predators, and we should boycott Muslim takeaways. When this is patently not the case. 

[celeste]

Quote Adsum: However there is more than enough evidence of sexual abuse in other areas.
That is what I've just posted
Quote celeste: Obviously child abuse is rife in other areas

[Adsum]

Quote Adsum: However there is more than enough evidence of sexual abuse in other areas.
That is what I've just posted
Quote celeste: Obviously child abuse is rife in other areas

 
Celeste I wasn't quoting "You as you! I was using "You" as the Royal We. if that makes sense. 

[celeste]

Well of course we can't generalise, good and bad everywhere - we were just focusing on this particular news issue.

[Cupcake]

Obviously child abuse is rife in other areas, it's just that a lot of people are not surprised any more that it is happening in Catholic schools as well as in the churches

It's not happening.  It happened.  All the cases in the news are historic, going back decades.    It's the same thing as saying that because some healthcare professionals went round ending lives the NHS is rife with institutionalised mass murder.....

[celeste]

It's not happening.  It happened.  All the cases in the news are historic, going back decades.   

  Yes I know it happened, I was meaning the people who still don't realise what went on, my eyes were  opened a while back when I read the St.Clare's thread

[Cupcake]

Yes, unfortunately, there are a lot of people who form opinions based on newspaper headlines alone.  People these days seem to actually enjoy painting the worst possible picture of anything.  As you said before, there's good and bad everywhere.  For every paedophile priest, there are a thousand priests who have only ever tried to help people.   

[celeste]

Quote: For every paedophile priest, there are a thousand priests who have only ever tried to help people.