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Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« on: 22:33:47, 07/03/14 »
Will anyone be joining the anti-fracking demo to begin in Piccadilly Gardens on Sunday?


Who wants to show their support and solidarity for the campers at Barton Moss?


Or do you think fracking could have economic benefits to the area and support the drilling?


Anyone against the protest camp at Barton Moss and those protesting in the city centre on Sunday?




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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #1 on: 10:47:51, 08/03/14 »
Hi Nick and welcome to the forum, will you be going to the protest - for it or against it,  I've not made up my mind but understand the fears of the locals


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'People are worried' Barbara Keeley, MP for Worsley and Eccles South, has previously expressed concern that the exploratory drilling could affect house prices and people's quality of life.
Rachel Thompson, one of the Frack Free Greater Manchester protesters living at the site, said: "It's about climate change; we will not hit our already disastrous targets if we continue with fracking.
"We've been door-knocking and not found a single person pro-fracking. People are really worried, they don't feel listened to."
IGas said drilling at the 1.8-acre site - the size of a football pitch - should take 12 weeks. If large volumes of coal or shale gas are found, further drilling will be subject to separate planning applications and consultations.
Shale gas extraction, or fracking, involves the hydraulic fracturing of the ground using high-pressure liquid containing sand and chemicals to release the gas.
An IGas spokesman said: "We respect the right to peaceful protest, however, our priority is to ensure that there is minimal disruption to local people in the communities where we operate."
Earlier this year, the British firm said there could be up to 170 trillion cubic feet (4,810 cubic km) of gas in the areas it is licensed to explore in northern England.




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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #2 on: 11:03:05, 08/03/14 »
I don't particularly have an opinion on Fracking. However it's interesting to note that it's not a million miles away from The Pendleton fault, which has been responsible for some fairly large earthquakes. The largest being in 1889, and more recently the half a dozen or so experienced in East Manchester and Tameside areas in 2007.




http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pendleton_Fault
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #3 on: 09:37:01, 10/03/14 »
Anti-fracking rally held in Manchester9 March 2014 Last updated at 17:03 GMT

Hundreds of people have joined a rally against the controversial fracking practice in Manchester.

Hydraulic fracturing, or fracking, is a technique designed to recover gas and oil from shale rock.

Barton Moss in Salford is one of a number of sites across the North West where permission has been granted to test the Bowland shale gas reserves for the viability of fracking.

The BBC's Alison Freeman says the protest has been mostly peaceful
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« Reply #4 on: 21:35:43, 11/03/14 »
Fracking protesters have won a late legal bid to avoid eviction from a camp near a test drilling site in Salford.

Lawyers for the group, at Barton Moss, have been granted a full hearing to decide if there are grounds for the right to an appeal against eviction.

Landowners Peel Investments was granted possession of the camp on Monday and the eviction had been due to take place at midday.

The firm has so far declined to comment on the decision.

'Possession order'
 
Ugo Hayter, of legal firm Leigh Day, said they were pleased the court had agreed "to stay the possession order pending a proper opportunity to consider our grounds of appeal".

About 60 people have been camped on land near Barton Moss where energy company IGas started testing for the presence of shale gas in November.
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #5 on: 21:38:55, 11/03/14 »
Two small earthquakes, of magnitude 1.5 and 2.2, hit the Blackpool area in 2011 after fracking.



I thought we'd had one five minutes ago as the sofa I'm sat on suddenly wobbled :o
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #6 on: 22:32:54, 11/03/14 »
Two small earthquakes, of magnitude 1.5 and 2.2, hit the Blackpool area in 2011 after fracking.



I thought we'd had one five minutes ago as the sofa I'm sat on suddenly wobbled :o

That would have been one of the protestors dropping their Giro  :idiot2:
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #7 on: 19:49:38, 12/03/14 »
Two small earthquakes, of magnitude 1.5 and 2.2, hit the Blackpool area in 2011 after fracking.



I thought we'd had one five minutes ago as the sofa I'm sat on suddenly wobbled :o
Another quake rocks Manchester

Manchester was shaken by another small earthquake today, the British Geological Survey said.

A tremor measuring 2.9 on the Richter scale was felt in areas of north Manchester at 4.39am, said assistant seismologist Julian Bukits.

An aftershock, measuring 2.0 on the scale, was felt 14 minutes later, and was then followed by a series of three more small aftershocks.

The latest tremor comes after Greater Manchester was hit by a series of quakes yesterday, which caused damage to property but caused no injuries.

The first tremor, measuring 3.2 on the Richter scale, alarmed people arriving for work at 8.45am. There were reports of a smaller tremor seconds later.

A second earthquake, measuring 3.9 on the Richter scale - 11 times bigger than the morning's tremor - shook the area at 12.42pm.

Just seconds later it was followed by an earthquake measuring 3.4 on the Richter scale.

Further quakes followed at 6pm and 11.30pm.

The Fire Brigade reported damage to several homes in the district, including fallen chimney pots and slight damage to stores in Manchester city centre.

The British Geological Survey said the earthquakes were quite big for the UK, but only minor damage would be caused.

Mr Bukits said: "It appears that the first quake at 8.45am yesterday was a pre-shock, which was followed later by the main shock.

"What we have been seeing since are a series of aftershocks.

"We can expect to see more but they should be diminishing in size.

"It could go on for weeks or months but most of them will go unnoticed."

Last month the West Midlands was hit by a quake measuring 4.8 on the Richter scale.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-143899/Another-quake-rocks-Manchester.html#ixzz2vmOzHjYY

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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #8 on: 21:08:52, 12/03/14 »
So the earthquakes have nothing to do with Fracking, as it's not started yet.
 
Maybe a bit of Fracking will stop the earthquakes.  :2funny:  or "Did the earth move for you"  :smitten:
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #9 on: 21:16:03, 12/03/14 »

  "Did the earth move for you"
 


No I shall complain :P
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #10 on: 22:42:14, 12/03/14 »
No I shall complain :P

and so you should.
 
There's absolutely no point in getting a good "Fracking" going if the Earth don't move  ;D
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #11 on: 23:00:47, 12/03/14 »
Well we'll just have to take your word for it then Ray


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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #12 on: 18:10:39, 17/03/14 »
As a pregnant woman my husband has banned me. We have seen the brutal police treatment to protestors. I really cant believe it, considering the protestors are taking their time and effect to protect everyone interest, including the police. Is there a website or action group forum where we can all get together to tackle this problems and maybe organise ways to promote and educate others?

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« Reply #13 on: 18:52:49, 17/03/14 »
Why do these "Protestors" claim to be protecting my interests. I don't recall them ever asking me what I thought or wanted.
 
Before any actual "Fracking" can take place they first have to establish if it's worth it. They then have to get planning permission before work can start.
I wonder just how many of these "Protestors" are actually local. I do know they appear to have plenty of time to camp out on Barton Moss. I wonder how they manage that ?
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #14 on: 14:38:12, 25/03/14 »
 Hi .
 
 With your claim that "Protestors" claim to be protecting my interests" please read on.
 
Just for the record, I am not a protestor, but I do support them. From what I can see I am really happy to that there are people out there who care so much and done so much research into it, to take time out of their lives to protest. The shell gas fracking organisations want to get permission to frack under anyone’s house without their permission. The rock underneath our land is connected, and if you purposely put in water, and drill holes the crack can get bigger and anywhere in that piece of rock that is weak will crumble and break. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to imagine this. If you look around the world, whereever there is fracking, there follows an increase in earthquakes and sinkholes. When this happens in 1 or two places, you can put it down to coincidence. But as this the same story start appearing, this is no longer a coincidence is it? Im sure protecting your life, property and community is in your interest? So in this sense they are protecting your interest.
 
 Also fracking contaminates the underground water, when you do that, there is no turning back. You need to start buying bottled water. In the case of fracking, the are where fracking happened, the water can be set a light, just like petrol. In this sense again, Im sure you would agree protecting the local water supply, so that the water that comes out of your taps, and flows down your local river isnt contaminated is in your interest. Isnt it?
 
 In America, the people are getting ill who live around in the fracking area, because of the water and air (please remember we are a small country, and these US states are much bigger than ours). Because the chemicals that are used in the fracking process a trade secret is the gagging order for anyone they tell not to pass this information on. Let’s say you get ill and your doctors has eliminated everything he/she can think off and assumed the chemicals used by these frackers is what casing this epidemic he/she is seeing in the local community recently and puts in a court order to get this information, once they have got it, they cant tell you the reason why your ill. Therefore you cannot sue or see if anyone else is having the problem as you. Im sure you would want to know about it, if it is you or your family friends who are getting ill.
The government in the UK, as already passed on a bill, saying that the UK tax payers will pay for any environmental cleanup from these fracking company if they do bankrupt. Now how hard is it, for a company to declare themselves bankrupt and open under a different name, just do they don’t have to pay out of cleaning up / or being sued etc… The country is skint already, we cant clean up their mess. Once our river and land are polluted there is no turning back. Just look at China. There is only minimising the effects on people and coming up with solutions to avoiding using the ground. Im sure it is your interest to make sure this doesn’t happen. And our tax money is going on other stuff like the NHS, rather than dealing with clean up operations, health related problems, environmental operations, etc… because of these crooks?
These are just a few things, Ive come up with. I am sure if you look into fracking, then you will start thinking more of your own.

 




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