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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #15 on: 15:24:19, 25/03/14 »
I don't know who wrote the above but I am certain that I do not wish them to represent myself. ;D  It was obviously a top research Scientist making such assumptions  ::)
 
Maybe all these "Protestors" will pedal the "Hamster wheel" to keep the lights on. They appear to have plenty of time to do such.
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #16 on: 18:14:55, 25/03/14 »
I don't know who wrote the above.....

Really?  Did the style and content not remind you of anyone?   ;)
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #17 on: 18:17:01, 25/03/14 »
Tom is known to Sheila - on another forum :)
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #18 on: 10:24:49, 26/03/14 »
Tom is known to Sheila - on another forum :)

I wonder if Sheila thinks she's lucky  ;D
 
I see these "Protestors" whilst protecting our interests have cost us £1.5 million. Sounds a bit like a "Protection racket" to me. I wonder what the real cost is when you factor in the "Benefit" we will also be paying them.
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #19 on: 18:03:54, 28/03/14 »
Mr Lloyd has already called on the government to bear some of the £1.6m his force will spend policing protests


Shale gas exploration firms should pay a levy towards the cost of policing anti-fracking protests, Greater Manchester's Police and Crime Commissioner says.

Tony Lloyd said firms stand to make "huge sums of money" out of their work.

"Since they'll be making big bucks, they [should] put something back into the kitty," he said.

Ken Cronin, of the UK Onshore Operators Group (UKOOG), said a levy would set a "worrying precedent".

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This is [not] unreasonable, particularly since central government has made clear that fracking is a priority in coming years”
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'Taxed at 62%'
 
The chief executive of UKOOG, a representative body for the UK onshore oil and gas industry, said it would constitute paying the costs of police protection from individuals who were preventing them going about their lawful and permitted business.

He said: "Like all business sectors the onshore oil and gas industry pays tax and in the case of onshore oil and gas this is currently set at 62%.

"In addition, the industry has agreed with government that all business rates generated will go to local councils and that communities around sites could earn up to £10m over the lifetime of a site."

About 60 people have been camped on land near a site in Barton Moss, Salford where energy company IGas started testing for the presence of shale gas in November.

Mr Lloyd has already called on the government to bear some of the £1.6m his force will spend policing the protests.

'Inevitable protests'
 
"We don't think this is unreasonable, particularly since central government has made clear that fracking is a priority for them in coming years," he said.

"It seems unfair that police locally have to foot the bill for the inevitable protests that follow."

Hydraulic fracturing or fracking involves pumping a mixture of water and chemicals into shale rock at high pressure to extract gas and oil.

Environmental campaigners claim the process encourages reliance on fossil fuels instead of promoting investment in renewable energy sources.

Proponents of the process say it unlocks huge deposits of oil and natural gas, increases a country's energy security and boosts the economies of the areas in which it takes place.
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #20 on: 19:59:17, 28/03/14 »
I would be interested in the "Make up" of these 60 protestors.
 
Where do they normally live.
What jobs do they do.
How many are in receipt of Benefits.
 
Considering that "Locals" could benefit to the tune of £10 million during the lifetime of the site that will not last long with an expenditure of £1.6 million for Policing so far.
 
As far as I am aware IGas are not in breach of any legislation. So if any "Protests" are to be made surely it should be against those that the "Consents".
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #21 on: 20:33:58, 28/03/14 »
So will it be the residents of Salford who will pay the policing bill through their Council taxes instead of the government?
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #22 on: 20:59:05, 28/03/14 »
I would have thought that it would be the residents of Greater Manchester as that is the Force that's involved.
 
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« Reply #23 on: 11:35:16, 29/03/14 »
The Police are calling for the fracking companies to pay a charge towards the cost  of policing the demonstration.  I don't see why the protesters aren't handed the bill.  Along with the bill for cleaning up after them.   
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #24 on: 15:47:42, 01/04/14 »
I see that Igas have announced they have found Shale formations that contain gas.
 
This could be excellent news for the GM area. Many more jobs on offer and local councils benefitting.
Not surprising they've found it considering that Lancashire was also a big coal mining area.
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #25 on: 22:24:35, 13/04/14 »
Well I hope that the "Fracking protestors" leave their campsite as pristine as they found it.
No detritus or human waste left behind for others to clear up. As my representatives I would expect nothing less. After all I expect I'm paying them.
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #26 on: 10:30:58, 14/04/14 »
You can hope.  There's always hope.   ;)
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #27 on: 13:06:48, 14/04/14 »
You can hope.  There's always hope.   ;)

None and Bob.
 
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Re: Anti-Fracking Demo, Piccadilly Gardens, Sunday
« Reply #28 on: 13:50:07, 14/08/15 »
Fracking, in the news again,the newsreels show protesters banners saying " no contamination of our clean air and our Clean Water"   Clean when?? hahaha
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