Author Topic: Rochdale 'suppressed' child abuse report by health professional  (Read 7338 times)

Cupcake

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Depends which site you read there.  If you read the academic sites, or the sites run by organisations involved in child protection, they all agree that the most likely paedophile is going to be sitting with the other Dads at the school concert.  If you read the sites run by religious groups and  general haters, then gay people are responsible for everything including flash floods and verrucas...... ::)
 
 
 
 
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And your figures to support this are glaringly absent..... ???


You asked I answered.
So to me more  accurate I thought I would try to answer your question with a bit more depth.
As we are talking in stats like mathematicians I preference to talk about the children who are victims of these dreadful people.




I have put some extracts together from the researched that is up to date.


The 10 percent fallacy: Studies indicate that, contrary to the inaccurate but widely accepted claims of sex researcher Alfred Kinsey, homosexuals comprise between 1 to 3 percent of the population.
Homosexuals Comprise Less than 3 Percent of the Population
  • Relying upon three large data sets: the General Social Survey, the National Health and Social Life Survey, and the U.S. census, a recent study in Demography estimates the number of exclusive male homosexuals in the general population at 2.5 percent, and the number of exclusive lesbians at 1.4 percent.
    Homosexuals are overrepresented in child sex offenses: Individuals from the 1 to 3 percent of the population that is sexually attracted to the same sex are committing up to one-third of the sex crimes against children.


    Significant numbers of victims are males: Up to one-third of all sex crimes against children are committed against boys (as opposed to girls).


    The actual percentage of child sexual abuse victims who are boys very likely exceeds the above estimates. Many researchers echo the view of the Journal of Child Psychiatry study, which refers to the "under-reporting of the incidence and prevalence of sexual abuse in boys.


    Some homosexual activists defend the historic connection between homosexuality and pedophilia: Such activists consider the defense of "boy-lovers" to be a legitimate gay rights issue.
    Men Account for Almost All Sexual Abuse of Children Cases
  • An essay on adult sex offenders in the book Sexual Offending Against Children reported:"It is widely believed that the vast majority of sexual abuse is perpetrated by males and that female sex offenders only account for a tiny proportion of offences. Indeed, with 3,000 adult male sex offenders in prison in England and Wales at any one time, the corresponding figure for female sex offenders is 12!"[1]

    Homosexual Pedophiles are Vastly Overrepresented in Child Sex Abuse Cases
    Homosexual pedophiles sexually molest children at a far greater rate compared to the percentage of homosexuals in the general population. A study in the Journal of Sex Researchfound, as we have noted above, that "approximately one-third of [child sex offenders] had victimized boys and two-thirds had victimized girls." The authors then make a prescient observation: "Interestingly, this ratio differs substantially from the ratio of gynephiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature females) to androphiles (men who erotically prefer physically mature males), which is at least 20 to 1
    Thus, the evidence shows that homosexual pedophiles cannot be narrowly defined as individuals who are solely attracted to underage boys. In fact there is considerable overlap between homosexuality and pedophilia.



    Previous investigations have indicated that the ratio of sex offenders against female children vs. offenders against male children is approximately 2:1, while the ratio of gynephiles to androphiles among the general population is approximately 20:1. The present study investigated whether the etiology of preferred partner sex among pedophiles is related to the etiology of preferred partner sex among males preferring adult partners. Using phallometric test sensitivities to calculate the proportion of true pedophiles among various groups of sex offenders against children, and taking into consideration previously reported mean numbers of victims per offender group, the ratio of heterosexual to homosexual pedophiles was calculated to be approximately 11:1. This suggests that the resulting proportion of true pedophiles among persons with a homosexual erotic development is greater than that in persons who develop heterosexually. This, of course, would not indicate that androphilic males have a greater propensity to offend against children.




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    Cupcake

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    Selecting ten words here and there isn't depth, it's bias, and it makes for a paper-thin construct -  but OK, we will have it your way for the moment.  Being gay makes you a child molester.  So may we now have all the figures and quotes you so carefully gathered about lesbian offenders?    ???
     
     
     
     
     
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    I worked for some years alongside the New Scotland yard (anti) Paedophile team.

    Their biggest problem was persuading the judiciary to stop soft-sentencing men caught with images of child rape (I quote one magistrate: 'it was only a bit of kiddie porn intended solely for his own use') and wake up to the fact that, for each possessor of such images to be kept satisfied, vast numbers of innocent child victims must be raped on a regular basis and in increasing numbers.

    Some judges also needed to be dissuaded from the common view that 'foreign kids are not quite the same as our kids'. Also, wading into traveller communities and taking action against certain known individuals  who regularly prostitute their children is not infringing the human rights of an ethnic minority group. It is preserving the human rights of children who live in our community.

    It is not just our children that need protecting. What is wrong with Rochdale, that now a 90 year old woman has been dragged off the street and raped? I despair. I really despair.
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    "for his own use"?  As opposed to what?   ???  It's only wrong if you sell it, not if you buy it?  I'd want to be investigating any judge who made a remark like "ONLY a bit of kiddie porn".  To my ears, that implies said judge has seen it all before and maybe even has a stash of his own.  Meanwhile certain quarters want us all to believe it's only gay men, foreigners and the working class who abuse kids.... Not fine upstanding judges, telly presenters, charity workers, politicians and scoutmasters?  ::)
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    Quote Cupcake:

    Selecting ten words here and there isn't depth, it's bias, and it makes for a paper-thin construct -  but OK, we will have it your way for the moment.  Being gay makes you a child molester.  So may we now have all the figures and quotes you so carefully gathered about lesbian offenders?    ???


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    I made it easier for you to understand the vast amount of data that points to the facts.
    You have used no data to facts or research
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     What is wrong with Rochdale, that now a 90 year old woman has been dragged off the street and raped? I despair. I really despair.

    What is wrong with Rochdale, that's what has been worrying me, I read that this happened at 7am in the morning - it's horrible to even think of it, I really hope this deranged man is caught as soon as possible before he repeats his offence >:(


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-28029362#
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    It is not just Rochdale that has rotten weirdos roaming around.
    You don't have to go far in any direction of manchester to come across some real freaks.

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    Quote Cupcake:

    Selecting ten words here and there isn't depth, it's bias, and it makes for a paper-thin construct -  but OK, we will have it your way for the moment.  Being gay makes you a child molester.  So may we now have all the figures and quotes you so carefully gathered about lesbian offenders?    ???


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    I made it easier for you to understand the vast amount of data that points to the facts.
    You have used no data to facts or research

    And you know how much research I have done?  You know my qualifications to speak on the subject?  You know my academic and work background?  Without asking me?  Well, there you go, consistent as ever in your fact-finding before opening your mouth, I'll give you that much.   
     
     
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    What is wrong with Rochdale, that's what has been worrying me, I read that this happened at 7am in the morning - it's horrible to even think of it, I really hope this deranged man is caught as soon as possible before he repeats his offence >:(


    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-manchester-28029362#




     The police issued a statement yesterday stating there was no forensic evidence to support the ladies claim that she had been raped. They were still investigating. I would prefer to think this poor old lady is possibly confused due to the state of her mind, rather than she has actually been raped. If this is the case I hope she receives the care she needs. if in fact she has been attacked I hope if they catch the scum who attacked her, they throw the book at them.  >:(
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    Oh I hope so too, Adsum. Better to be confused than abused.  :-\
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    Definitely.  It's not nice to be told you've had a bit of a tizzy but it's a million times better than being raped on your way to the corner shop.  I do hope she's mistaken   
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    As well as speaking to her family who may know if she has some sort of problem, are the police allowed to speak to her GP about her condition?
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    And you know how much research I have done?  You know my qualifications to speak on the subject?  You know my academic and work background?  Without asking me?  Well, there you go, consistent as ever in your fact-finding before opening your mouth, I'll give you that much.


    A rather strange statement am I supposed to know your academic history?
    Let me remind you of the subject we were discussing before you made it about YOU.


    We were debating child abuse and risk factors.
    I stated that the research done so far indicates that a child is at more risk if he is a boy under the age of 14 and around homosexual men the risk factor increases.


    YOU on the other hand have not provided a single fact.





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